Comments on: Shotgun Adoption http://domestic-infant.adoptionblogs.com/weblogs/shotgun-adoption Blog with information on open adoption. Includes advice, tips, concerns, and news articles about open adoption. Birthparent and Adoptive parent blog on open adoption. Articles, information, and news about domestic adoption Thu, 02 Feb 2012 10:50:39 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Adoption in the News 2009 — Transracial / Transcultural Adoption http://domestic-infant.adoptionblogs.com/weblogs/shotgun-adoption/comment-page-1#comment-94 Adoption in the News 2009 — Transracial / Transcultural Adoption Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:02:10 +0000 http://u-s-infant.www.adoptionblogs.com/2009/08/30/shotgun-adoption#comment-94 [...] Shotgun Adoption (August 30, 2009): about a New Yorker piece that discusses unethical adoptions. [...] [...] Shotgun Adoption (August 30, 2009): about a New Yorker piece that discusses unethical adoptions. [...]

]]> By: beth1962 http://domestic-infant.adoptionblogs.com/weblogs/shotgun-adoption/comment-page-1#comment-36 beth1962 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 22:52:48 +0000 http://u-s-infant.www.adoptionblogs.com/2009/08/30/shotgun-adoption#comment-36 coercion is definatley an ugly thing.<br /> But sometimes it's done with an agenda and with concern, and sometimes the person doing it may not realize it.<br /> <br /> Parents concerned about their young daughters (sons too) getting pregnant and saying the things like above, wanting a certain life for their child, I beleive are coercing those humans to follow their agenda or what they think is the best or what is right.<br /> Whether they think it is a good thing or not. It's natural, at least in the beginning and for thousands of years to have sex and be pregnant when it became physically possible. Now it's a sin, or something to be ashamed of, something to get out of, something to avoid until it's socially acceptable.. In many of our society's groups pregnacy at any age by anyone is discusting and ewww and never go there if you do you are simply stupid, weak, selfish....the world is already over crowded ya know.<br /> <br /> <br /> A church counselor may believe that when saying coercive things like this that it's the truth "God doesn't make mistakes. He brought this baby into your life so you could make a childless couple happy." I question it and would like to ask the counselor "How would you know?" and why would you push me in that direction? And WWJD?<br /> <br /> Anything we say to lead someone else to do something they may not be intending to do is coercion.<br /> <br /> I hope and pray coercion ceases to exist with the agenda of removing a child from it's mother for adoption.<br /> <br /> Is coercion always bad???<br /> I hope not, am going to coerce my son right now into doing his homework for his own good and for mine. even tho he says he really wants to be a "digger" or a janitor and grades don't matter so much. I push him in the good grade section for what I want for him. Probably a good thing, regardless I will be very proud if I see him dig a perfect ditch.<br /> <br /> I'm totally upfront about my coercive techniques with him, which include bribes and promises I'll avoid as long as I can or never intend to carry out LOL does that make a difference? If your upfront about it?<br /> Even if you're a little sneaky? :)<br /> <br /> I've concluded that I'm not sure where the line is between encouragement and coercion, or if there truly is one.<br /> <br /> "don't dwell on your answer so much -<br /> question the question" my last fortune cookie<br /> coercion is definatley an ugly thing.
But sometimes it’s done with an agenda and with concern, and sometimes the person doing it may not realize it.

Parents concerned about their young daughters (sons too) getting pregnant and saying the things like above, wanting a certain life for their child, I beleive are coercing those humans to follow their agenda or what they think is the best or what is right.
Whether they think it is a good thing or not. It’s natural, at least in the beginning and for thousands of years to have sex and be pregnant when it became physically possible. Now it’s a sin, or something to be ashamed of, something to get out of, something to avoid until it’s socially acceptable.. In many of our society’s groups pregnacy at any age by anyone is discusting and ewww and never go there if you do you are simply stupid, weak, selfish….the world is already over crowded ya know.

A church counselor may believe that when saying coercive things like this that it’s the truth “God doesn’t make mistakes. He brought this baby into your life so you could make a childless couple happy.” I question it and would like to ask the counselor “How would you know?” and why would you push me in that direction? And WWJD?

Anything we say to lead someone else to do something they may not be intending to do is coercion.

I hope and pray coercion ceases to exist with the agenda of removing a child from it’s mother for adoption.

Is coercion always bad???
I hope not, am going to coerce my son right now into doing his homework for his own good and for mine. even tho he says he really wants to be a “digger” or a janitor and grades don’t matter so much. I push him in the good grade section for what I want for him. Probably a good thing, regardless I will be very proud if I see him dig a perfect ditch.

I’m totally upfront about my coercive techniques with him, which include bribes and promises I’ll avoid as long as I can or never intend to carry out LOL does that make a difference? If your upfront about it?
Even if you’re a little sneaky? :)

I’ve concluded that I’m not sure where the line is between encouragement and coercion, or if there truly is one.

“don’t dwell on your answer so much -
question the question” my last fortune cookie

]]> By: Jenna Hatfield http://domestic-infant.adoptionblogs.com/weblogs/shotgun-adoption/comment-page-1#comment-35 Jenna Hatfield Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:13:30 +0000 http://u-s-infant.www.adoptionblogs.com/2009/08/30/shotgun-adoption#comment-35 karae; You can read an agenda into the piece if you want. The point is that reform is greatly needed and people need to know about it. No one is "pro-abortion." No one wants every unplanned pregnancy to result in an abortion. Likewise, no one should want every unplanned pregnancy to result in an adoption, especially an unethical one. That's what the article is about. karae; You can read an agenda into the piece if you want. The point is that reform is greatly needed and people need to know about it. No one is “pro-abortion.” No one wants every unplanned pregnancy to result in an abortion. Likewise, no one should want every unplanned pregnancy to result in an adoption, especially an unethical one. That’s what the article is about.

]]> By: karae http://domestic-infant.adoptionblogs.com/weblogs/shotgun-adoption/comment-page-1#comment-34 karae Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:53:03 +0000 http://u-s-infant.www.adoptionblogs.com/2009/08/30/shotgun-adoption#comment-34 While I certainly agree that no mother should be pressured into giving up her baby, I have to wonder at the potential bias of this article. Any article that talks about "the antiabortion movement" has already expressed a preference for abortion on demand and the culture that goes along with it, which in my humble opinion includes a stigma on adoption. While I certainly agree that no mother should be pressured into giving up her baby, I have to wonder at the potential bias of this article. Any article that talks about “the antiabortion movement” has already expressed a preference for abortion on demand and the culture that goes along with it, which in my humble opinion includes a stigma on adoption.

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